(;GM[1]FF[4]SZ[19]AP[SmartGo:2.5.0.0]CA[UTF-8]
GN[2010 North American Ing Masters - Round 2 Board 1 - Mingjiu Jiang 7p vs Yuan Zhou 7d]
PW[Mingjiu Jiang]WR[7p]
PB[Yuan Zhou]BR[7d]
EV[2010 North American Ing Masters]RO[2]
DT[2010-08-03]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[7.0]
RE[W+Resign]
US[Solomon Smilack]
RU[NZ]ST[2]
TM[5400.0]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
AN[Xuefen Lin 1P]
C[North American Ing Masters
Round 2, Board 1
Monday, August 2 2010
UCCS, Colorado Springs, CO
W: Mingjiu Jiang 7P
B: Yuan Zhou 7d
Commentary by Xuefen Lin 1P
Game Recorded by Solomon Smilack
Published in the American Go E-Journal]
;B[dp];W[pq];B[dd];W[pd]
C[evilpig [9k\]: hey figo
];B[po];W[qo];B[pp];W[qp];B[oq];W[pr]
C[USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to the 2010 U.S. Go Congress live broadcast of the North American Masters Tournament in Colorado Springs, Colorado, brought to you by the American Go E-Journal, KGS and the American Go Association. Check out our website – www.usgo.org - for the latest Congress reports, photos and game records, as well as go news from around the world.
]
;B[pn];W[or];B[nq];W[rm]
C[USGO1 [-\]: This is round 2, board 1.  I'm Solomon Smilack and I will be your game recorder today.
]
;B[dj];W[pl]
C[Athanor [-\]: b will win
USGO1 [-\]: While the Ing Foundation is not supporting the tournament this year, the AGA Board decided to honor the past commitments of the Ing Foundation by continuing to call the tournament by the Ing name using Ing scoring.
evanj [2d\]: glad to hear it
]
;B[jd]
C[kevinwang1 [8k\]: how old is mingjiu?
yasi [1d\]: r8 is small
USGO1 [-\]: So it is the North American Ing Masters Tournament. Komi is 8 points I think - I may only have put 7 in the game description.
kevinwang1 [8k\]: 80 years old?
USGO1 [-\]: Secretly I hope it will be a close game.
kevinwang1 [8k\]: 200?
evanj [2d\]: r8 is not at all small
kevinwang1 [8k\]: 我吃屎
agugglez [3k\]: is black bigbadwolf?
]
;W[lq]
C[indianayk [4d\]: no
evanj [2d\]: no, b is pro
agugglez [3k\]: i mean white
indianayk [4d\]: b is not a pro
USGO1 [-\]: No, Mingjiu is not BBW. But his last loss came at the hands of BBW.
USGO1 [-\]: Mingjiu is on a 7 game streak this year. In fact, his last loss was a single loss to Andy Liu at the 2009 NA Ing Masters.
True [1k\]: b
True [1k\]: is
True [1k\]: 7p
Agzam [1k\]: Гаечка=)
agugglez [3k\]: im asking about white!
Gaechka [7k\]: =)
USGO1 [-\]: Actually 8 game streak now... he won yesterday.
agugglez [3k\]: bigbadwolf's name was something like white's name
evanj [2d\]: andy liu?
True [1k\]: andy liu = bbw
indianayk [4d\]: w is not a pro. bbw name Andy Liu
USGO1 [-\]: I'm not sure where Andy is this year, many have asked after him.
agugglez [3k\]: there was a Zhou around
evanj [2d\]: this zhou is a very sweet guy from the maryland area
kevinwang1 [8k\]: hbvdfhvnuiuf
fairgo1 [2d\]: Yuan Zhou is GMD on Kgs
kevinwang1 [8k\]: hefefre
kevinwang1 [8k\]: l87ij
kevinwang1 [8k\]: ik8i
kevinwang1 [8k\]: ik8
kevinwang1 [8k\]: 7i
]
;B[lo]
C[Xuefen Lin 1P: This opening is ok for B, but his follow-up move is not consistent; Mingjiu likes territory


holynec [?\]: i do not like white's play
evanj [2d\]: why not?
evanj [2d\]: too slow?
]
;W[jp]
C[evanj [2d\]: it is unusual...
heywardbey [2d\]: o5 honte?
Athanor [-\]: b play like pro : solid, and territorial
indianayk [4d\]: w's strategy was to attack the weak group, and reduce the left side influence 
Athanor [-\]: w*
evanj [2d\]: you a raiders fan?
heywardbey [2d\]: i am a raider
heywardbey [2d\]: what are you talking about bruh
evanj [2d\]: sorry to hear that
USGO1 [-\]: The last time these two players met at an AGA tournament was at the 2006 US Open. Mingjiu won the game at that time.
evanj [2d\]: say hi to richard seymour from me, tell him new england misses him
heywardbey [2d\]: haha alright
]
;B[hq]
C[Xuefen Lin 1P: B21 is not consistent with A; B21 is a territorial move; I would keep going at B instead


heywardbey [2d\]: i think he know already ;)
heywardbey [2d\]: knows*
evanj [2d\]: :D
agugglez [3k\]: if black lives there he wins
heywardbey [2d\]: he will live
agugglez [3k\]: then he will win
Athanor [-\]: that's what i think
heywardbey [2d\]: that's what she said
]
LB[lo:A][jn:B];W[jn]
C[MChow [1k\]: thats wat pat johnson says
shindon [-\]: bs group is being surounded way to much
USGO1 [-\]: Mingjiu has a very high AGA rating 9.64, to Yuan's 7.88
]
;B[lm];W[jl]
C[Xuefen Lin 1P: This is great for W, who has jumped through B's whole moyo area, and A does not secure territory, either. Seems like B changed his mind.

kuruhuru9 [6k\]: white plays very strange
heywardbey [2d\]: chad ochocinco <3
shindon [-\]: why do you say that?
evanj [2d\]: ochocinco and T.O. on the same team this year, you ready?
heywardbey [2d\]: yeee
Rakurai [5k\]: White is just putting pressure on the black group while advancing to the center before black has a chance to.
heywardbey [2d\]: i can't wait for their touchdown duets
heywardbey [2d\]: choereographed dance 
heywardbey [2d\]: watch every cinci game i can\]
]
LB[hq:A]
(;B[kp]
C[Xuefen Lin 1P: The fight doesn't make sense, because W gets the outside moves, but B doesn't want to keep jumping, either, or W will continue to destroy moyo]
;W[jq];B[kq];W[kr];B[lr]
C[USGO1 [-\]: What should white do here, and why?
evanj [2d\]: j2
Unefoix [1k\]: fo me he must capture the cutting stone
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: n2 
Agzam [1k\]: Я вернулся
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: молодец
Gaechka [7k\]: Азамчик=)
Unefoix [1k\]: to avoid that black make a base
Rakurai [5k\]: N2, M2, and then L5 to put more pressure on blacks group.
nannygoat [8k\]: but all you bases are belong to us
rmod [-\]: nice cut
Rakurai [5k\]: M1 I mean. Not M2.
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome back Agzam. What would you do here?
Agzam [1k\]: I am observing this game
]
;W[mr]
C[rmod [-\]: k2 time
USGO1 [-\]: В этой ситуации, как вы шаг?
XY0908 [-\]: USGO1 speaks Russian?
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: он русский
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: шпион
rmod [-\]: russian spy. I'm kidding
Gaechka [7k\]: =)
lexansoft [3k\]: looks like google translation ;)
mollycat [6k\]: never know
USGO1 [-\]: lexansoft is on the money
]
;B[jr];W[ls];B[jo]
C[lexansoft [3k\]: ;)
mollycat [6k\]: i think we need a video feed of usgo
]
;W[io]
C[rmod [-\]: odd I liked j2 more
];B[ko]
C[mollycat [6k\]: maybe usgo looks like anna chapman
];W[ip]
C[evanj [2d\]: me too
XY0908 [-\]: K5 is pretty.
logan3 [-\]: k5 is great
rmod [-\]: this might be safer though
evanj [2d\]: k5 is obvious after k2
Arhiman [1k\]: j6 ? 
XY0908 [-\]: eveanj, sorry that I wasn't that smart. ;-)
eboesch [1d\]: w could have forced with l5 then m3 but I guess he thought the possibility of the cut was more important
rmod [-\]: j2 please
evanj [2d\]: it's ok XY
]
;B[lk]
C[Xuefen Lin 1P: B winds up having to jump anyway, and the marked stone is damaged


XY0908 [-\]: whew!
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: hehe
mollycat [6k\]: hee hee
rmod [-\]: mind blown
USGO1 [-\]: Yuan slaps this stone down
XY0908 [-\]: which move?
USGO1 [-\]: M9
]
LB[hq:A];W[ir]
C[mollycat [6k\]: ? didn't mingjiu just play m9?
XY0908 [-\]: ?
Athanor [-\]: Yuan is b?
Arhiman [1k\]: some go players know how to look impressive
logan3 [-\]: Yuan is White.
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: where is live translation?
holynec [?\]: can i slap my stone down %_%
USGO1 [-\]: Gods!~ Twice in one day. One moment please.
dedroid [1k\]: i love colorful commentation
evanj [2d\]: oh no
evanj [2d\]: the pro has been w this whole time?!!
evanj [2d\]: the pro has been playing this weird opening?!
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: w is not pro
mollycat [6k\]: we need a live video feed of usgo, who may look like anna chapman and be quite tipsy
evanj [2d\]: holy moly
dedroid [1k\]: lol, his world is crashing down around him
USGO1 [-\]: <whistles> 
rmod [-\]: lol
dedroid [1k\]: it's ok evan, we're here for you
]
;B[jj]
C[Xuefen Lin 1P: I would rather have seen a move in this area earlier, rather than the marked stone. 

Athanor [-\]: tengen!
Arhiman [1k\]: tengen nice
XY0908 [-\]: evanJ, you just called two people holynec and mollycat.
]
TR[hq];W[cc]
C[Xuefen Lin 1P: Mingjiu style; take his territory and then reduce his opponent; easy


Ailura [8k\]: what is komi?
nanok [?\]: j2 looks so small now..
Rakurai [5k\]: 7 point komi
sivananda [2d\]: w played 3-3 fast
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: wow
USGO1 [-\]: (8 point komi)
USGO1 [-\]: Ing rules
dedroid [1k\]: i wonder if i should narrate my own games
logan3 [-\]: Yes, Ing.
rmod [-\]: they play NZ rules? Suicide is allowed in US go?
]
;B[cd]
C[Fenix [?\]: b shouldve prevented j2 maybe?
];W[dc];B[fc]
C[Arhiman [1k\]: did both player just change colors ?
minoru19 [4d\]: ????
Athanor [-\]: missclick?
USGO1 [-\]: Sorry for that typo on the komi. If it makes you feel better, I think board 2 has a typo 78 point komi.
Arhiman [1k\]: is that allowed ?
Fenix [?\]: because this way he made his h3 stone bad play
XY0908 [-\]: too risky, maybe, against Mingjiu.
rmod [-\]: ha
Hestler [3k\]: no, this isnt misclick
Ailura [8k\]: hehe that is why i was asking
]
;W[fb]
C[kuruhuru9 [6k\]: agzam slept
XY0908 [-\]: USGO1, you must be really tired.
Athanor [-\]: ok so w is the pro. that makes sense now, w acting like a pro
sivananda [2d\]: how many undos does each player get?
MChow [1k\]: 0
evanj [2d\]: um, zero
sivananda [2d\]: ;)
rmod [-\]: depends on kibitz
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: what time now in that tournament?
USGO1 [-\]: I ~am~ tired after an afternoon of soccer with the kids here at the US Go Congress.
ChemBoy613 [-\]: hey who's our recorder today? :)
USGO1 [-\]: Also it rained and hailed all over us. ;_;
USGO1 [-\]: Solomon Smilack with you as usual~
Arhiman [1k\]: you should have studied go
XY0908 [-\]: So, you are forgiven.
rmod [-\]: e18 ?
Baldanders [7k\]: usual colorado afternoon thunderstorm
logan3 [-\]: How's the weather forcast for the rest of the week in CO?
Arhiman [1k\]: It doesn't rain inside
USGO1 [-\]: Any questions abaout the game?
sivananda [2d\]: Who does Paul the Octopus predict is going to win this one?
Athanor [-\]: w
Arhiman [1k\]: spain
USGO1 [-\]: Spain
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: b
Arhiman [1k\]: haha
Totti10 [4k\]: where can we see the leader board?
USGO1 [-\]:  <high five>
Arhiman [1k\]: virtual high five
USGO1 [-\]: You can view the Crosstabs through the usgo website.
Fenix [?\]: <borat> high five
USGO1 [-\]: That will give you standings and should also eventually link to the game records themselves.
Totti10 [4k\]: oh i see it thanks
nanok [?\]: how much time does each player have, solomon?
sivananda [2d\]: who thinks the 3-3 invasion was good?
]
;B[cn]
C[XY0908 [-\]: me.
];W[gc]
C[Athanor [-\]: i do
];B[fd]
C[kuruhuru9 [6k\]: it was obvious
];W[ec];B[ed]
C[MXHero [3d\]: k16 is out of place now
];W[bc]
C[Athanor [-\]: b should b16 directly
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: tenuki
Athanor [-\]: maybe g16 first
holynec [?\]: <-- holynec monster
]
;B[bd]
C[MrCactu5 [2k\]: the wall is good for black
MXHero [3d\]: this b16 looks so small!
logan3 [-\]: i like g16 for j6 aji
]
;W[gd]
C[Xuefen Lin 1P: After this, a lot of fighting in the center, but it favors W because his groups and territories are all settled down and he can attack the marked stone (end of commentary) 


sivananda [2d\]: i still don't know who slapped which stone down?
evanj [2d\]: hahaha
evanj [2d\]: yuan zhou slapped down the stone you see on M
evanj [2d\]: 9
USGO1 [-\]: Zhou slapped down M9
nanok [?\]: yuan, m9
Athanor [-\]: that was b, and g9
]
TR[jd];B[ge]
C[evanj [2d\]: g9?
Athanor [-\]: m9*
];W[he]
C[evanj [2d\]: he must have slapped it down really hard then
USGO1 [-\]: Yah~
sivananda [2d\]: ok thx
MrCactu5 [2k\]: oh wow.  now B commits to the left side
evanj [2d\]: please cut
Athanor [-\]: hum
rmod [-\]: j16?
rmod [-\]: I mean j15
]
;B[hd]
C[kuruhuru9 [6k\]: cut?
evanj [2d\]: thank you
nanok [?\]: blood
nanok [?\]: :)
]
;W[hc];B[id]
C[Athanor [-\]: aji
];W[hf]
C[kuruhuru9 [6k\]: it is interesting
];B[gf];W[hg]
C[Fenix [?\]: K14?
eboesch [1d\]: I think b might keep pushing because it is hard for w to live without letting b follow and live too, I think
sivananda [2d\]: 8d aga is what kgs?
eboesch [1d\]: pushing on the left side I mean
Fenix [?\]: i dont like the idea of keeping pushing from behind ^^
TheElder [8k?\]: this game, seems very evenly played imo
Fenix [?\]: or maybe H11?
Fenix [?\]: if b g13, i'd think w jumps for sure
sivananda [2d\]: What is Yuan Zhou's rank on kgs?
eboesch [1d\]: eh, you're probably right, it is normally considered the wrong side to play from
sivananda [2d\]: huh? Yuan Zhou just lost a rank in the middle of the game!
MChow [1k\]: lol
vest [5d\]: some kind of commentary on his move? 
Arhiman [1k\]: usgo is trying to lure us
eboesch [1d\]: flowers for Yuan Zhou
vest [5d\]: he'd better play faster
MChow [1k\]: isn't the komi 8, not 7?
Arhiman [1k\]: k13 or l13 maybe ?
Athanor [-\]: yup
USGO1 [-\]: yes 8
Totti10 [4k\]: is this the first round?
holynec [?\]: so is there video q_q
TheElder [8k?\]: b k14 seems solid and still puts pressure on white.
sivananda [2d\]: i have no idea where black should play
XY0908 [-\]: hard to play for B.
eboesch [1d\]: yeah, play on the weak group or play on the side that has potential to make humongous territory?
MChow [1k\]: hes reading the next 15-20 probably
MChow [1k\]: moves
Arhiman [1k\]: or maybe just the next one :)
holynec [?\]: BANKAI
TheElder [8k?\]: never be greedy. k14 says "the ball is in your court". imo 
bitzi [-\]: greed is good
sivananda [2d\]: k14 then w k13
MChow [1k\]: greed is good when your leading
TheElder [8k?\]: greed is not good when you're leading lol
sivananda [2d\]: what about black K13 now?
purp [6k\]: live video of this game?
]
;B[nc]
C[Arhiman [1k\]: oh
TheElder [8k?\]: hmm
TheElder [8k?\]: b want's sente for k13
Arhiman [1k\]: I thought this one, but what about m17 pincer ?
]
;W[gg]
C[MChow [1k\]: not even close to what I thought
sivananda [2d\]: <b starts to sweat>
purp [6k\]: r14
Arhiman [1k\]: e13 ?
nanok [?\]: i think he expected that..
XY0908 [-\]: G13 is a mighty solid move.
zak86rog [8k\]: I would play e13
USGO1 [-\]: It's too cold in here with the AC to sweat.
USGO1 [-\]: Mingjiu is wearing a fleece vest.
Arhiman [1k\]: no e13 bad actually
sivananda [2d\]: e14
Arhiman [1k\]: he should not answer
dedroid [1k\]: what if someone walked up and high fived mingjiu right now
TheElder [8k?\]: if it's cold, you can shiver causing your body to friction itself into sweating....
]
;B[ef]
C[ponticello [3k\]: fleece is the source of his power
MChow [1k\]: or you can pretend to sweat:)
CptCaveman [2d\]: I have the feeling b is about to get fleeced
nanok [?\]: why is f13 bad?
TheElder [8k?\]: now pincer? or h10
Arhiman [1k\]: l14
TheElder [8k?\]: b f13, f14, f15 f12, e13, g11 and white gets eyeshape.
TheElder [8k?\]: that's why its bad.
holynec [?\]: so submissive! >:o
TheElder [8k?\]: E13? 
nanok [?\]: thanks, theelder
TheElder [8k?\]: np
]
;W[kg]
C[TheElder [8k?\]: hmm
TheElder [8k?\]: how to defend m17 while still attacking white?
Arhiman [1k\]: I'd play o15 without thinking
TheElder [8k?\]: i thought k14, k13, m15
TheElder [8k?\]: or maybe that's bad shape with o17
]
;B[qf]
C[logan3 [-\]: Curious move.
TheElder [8k?\]: oh wth, m17!
eboesch [1d\]: I'm not sure m17 wouldn't get eaten outright
Arhiman [1k\]: q14 ? I hope I'll get at least one right
Fenix [?\]: g13 attacks shape, free sente
]
;W[pf]
C[Fenix [?\]: b looks sort of thin on top maybe?
Arhiman [1k\]: it was about time
dedroid [1k\]: high five for arhiman
Arhiman [1k\]: virtual high five
]
;B[pg]
C[dedroid [1k\]: o/\\o
];W[of]
C[sivananda [2d\]: thin or heavy?
sivananda [2d\]: looks like both
CptCaveman [2d\]: lol, nice high 5.
madkyu [5k\]: r12
nanok [?\]: r11 maybe?
madkyu [5k\]: or r17
Arhiman [1k\]: is n14 shape good enough ?
sivananda [2d\]: r15 or r17
USGO1 [-\]: Yuan has 51 minutes left, Mingjiu has 1hr 8min
]
;B[qc];W[qe]
C[ponticello [3k\]: then 5 x 1:00  byoyomi
];B[pc];W[ml]
C[sivananda [2d\]: n8 was lightning fast!
USGO1 [-\]: Mingjiu slaps this stone down, and quite immediately after black q17
purp [6k\]: he definitely knew he wanted it
USGO1 [-\]: He was clearly thinking about taking sente here, yes.
sivananda [2d\]: that's one slap for each of them
nanok [?\]: p9?
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: black is much ahead. Is not it?
CptCaveman [2d\]: not.
XY0908 [-\]: Are you sure this time, Solomon?
MChow [1k\]: L7?
Arhiman [1k\]: just m8
MXHero [3d\]: if a 9p is confidently playing a peep, we can assume he is winning :)
USGO1 [-\]: I may be a Russian spy but I'm not a double crosser ;D
]
;B[ll]
C[rjm [3k\]: l7 helps w
XY0908 [-\]: haha
evanj [2d\]: he's only a 7p thoug
evanj [2d\]: h
nanok [?\]: arhiman: whiskey?
Arhiman [1k\]: no thanks
MXHero [3d\]: oh whoops, misread
MXHero [3d\]: well then idk who is winning lol
USGO1 [-\]: Mingjiu is leaning over the board now, looking at the G10 area
madkyu [5k\]: c8
USGO1 [-\]: fiddling with stones, leaning back, thinking. This move looks like it will take a while.
rjm [3k\]: not going to finish up with a move like r13?
nanok [?\]: solomon: you rock :)
SnC [2k\]: b not bad
SnC [2k\]: left site pretty big
]
;W[nj]
C[BrYanwithY [4k\]: solomon?
USGO1 [-\]: Yea?
mollycat [6k\]: the incrowd is on a first name basis with usgo
BrYanwithY [4k\]: you rock
USGO1 [-\]: Woot!
TheElder [8k?\]: hmm
Arhiman [1k\]: n13
madkyu [5k\]: http://www.lsw.uni-heidelberg.de/users/sbrinkma/pictures/you_rock_you_rule.jpg
TheElder [8k?\]: white wants to gouge eyespace at o5 area and then chase on the left side?
TheElder [8k?\]: lol funny pick
XY0908 [-\]: actually the left side is not so big.
eboesch [1d\]: if w can just make b waste a move at j6, w is happy
MXHero [3d\]: right side is probably bigger than the left side now, assuming o10 actually seals it
Meepy [-\]: watch black play a move on the left side now :P
sivananda [2d\]: where to play on the left?
XY0908 [-\]: One move cannot seal the territory.
Meepy [-\]: f10
]
;B[im]
C[USGO1 [-\]: How should white respond?
MXHero [3d\]: h7
Troff [?\]: is the ing masters room open to the public?
Arhiman [1k\]: f3
USGO1 [-\]: Yes it is. It is the strong players room.
USGO1 [-\]: However I believe two of the games are being broadcast to the main playing area upstairs.
Troff [?\]: games every day except wednesday?
USGO1 [-\]: And they probably have a pro commenting on the game on a huge screen.
Arhiman [1k\]: that must be nice
]
;W[dh]
C[sivananda [2d\]: d12 is deep
kurii [9k\]: f12
sivananda [2d\]: now the game is going to get fun
USGO1 [-\]: The Ing Masters Tournament is only 5 rounds, so there will be no game on Wednesday (the day off) and no game on ... um...
TheElder [8k?\]: hmm w wants to c8 or he's going to live there and play at d3
Athanor [-\]: b can't e12
logan3 [-\]: d12 is spicy
kurii [9k\]: i like f12
sivananda [2d\]: who here would have thought of d12 themselves?
Athanor [-\]: e12 e11 d11 e13 f12 f13 d13 d14 c13 f15 c14 m16 
TheElder [8k?\]: i actually thought of d12 back when b played e14...
MXHero [3d\]: not me siv
]
;B[eh];W[ei]
C[Athanor [-\]: or m17, but this is severe
stoner [2d\]: why cant b e12?
]
;B[fh]
C[schaz [13k\]: dead?
];W[di]
C[stoner [2d\]: and he just did
];B[cj]
C[USGO1 [-\]: another slapped stone from Yuan
Athanor [-\]: that's bad shape
USGO1 [-\]: and a replied slapped stone by Mingjiu
]
;W[ej]
C[TheElder [8k?\]: white not bad shape.
MXHero [3d\]: that's 2-2 for slaps right?
TheElder [8k?\]: b maybe with c10
evanj [2d\]: there's gonna be a fistfight
]
;B[gi]
C[stoner [2d\]: i would g11 if b
stoner [2d\]: dang
TheElder [8k?\]: lol yuan will throw the board on the floor and challenge mingjiu to an arm wrestling match.
]
;W[gj]
C[USGO1 [-\]: 3/4 slap
stoner [2d\]: h11
];B[hi]
C[USGO1 [-\]: stoner on the money
];W[hj]
C[TheElder [8k?\]: lool
TheElder [8k?\]: that's sounds like a big oxymoron.
USGO1 [-\]: 6/7ths slap
USGO1 [-\]: Keep up with the fractions, c'mon.
stoner [2d\]: one more patient move-- j11
evanj [2d\]: j10
]
;B[ii]
C[TheElder [8k?\]: b almost has one group.
TheElder [8k?\]: wow stoner.
stoner [2d\]: looking at k13l
USGO1 [-\]: I was hoping for k12 ;_;
evanj [2d\]: :/
]
;W[li]
C[Arhiman [1k\]: wow
Athanor [-\]: wow
MXHero [3d\]: whaat? oh dear
stoner [2d\]: k13
Arhiman [1k\]: Athanor, please don't copy me please
USGO1 [-\]: Another slap. Mingjiu is giving off a vibe of control here.
MXHero [3d\]: if m11 was not a slap.. oh ok
wronkth [4k\]: wow
Athanor [-\]: that can't be
SnC [2k\]: how w digged into b left site
USGO1 [-\]: Mingjiu is way ahead on stone/board volume.
TheElder [8k?\]: Mr. Smilack, is there a live feed of this?
MXHero [3d\]: i don't understand how w lives here
Arhiman [1k\]: that game is a self-confidence contest
USGO1 [-\]: No live feed, sorry.
purp [6k\]: j8
MXHero [3d\]: f9 peep and then attack?
stoner [2d\]: yeah b has many choices that look good
TheElder [8k?\]: thanks, its gokay
TheElder [8k?\]: okay*
eboesch [1d\]: my bet is w would not defend the peep
MXHero [3d\]: i like gokay, i'm going to use that
evanj [2d\]: even a moron connects against a peep
rmod [-\]: I like h6
USGO1 [-\]: Can black kill the white on the left? And where to start?
monkeyDgo [3k\]: what if w e9 against the f9 peep?
MXHero [3d\]: oh you are right, i forget that m7 is eyeless
sivananda [2d\]: black could kill me if I was white
SnC [2k\]: seems very hard to kill
TheElder [8k?\]: if b tries, he needs k7 imo
MXHero [3d\]: maybe it's a huge trade starting with j8? and w counted confidently?
TheElder [8k?\]: or h9 i think
SnC [2k\]: start from J9
rmod [-\]: h6 please
wronkth [4k\]: h8
evanj [2d\]: h6?!
TheElder [8k?\]: h9 is the move. I know for sure. =\]\]
evanj [2d\]: you don't mean h6
TheElder [8k?\]: nope.
evanj [2d\]: not you, rmod
Arhiman [1k\]: j6 ?
rmod [-\]: I like I want to start closing off the left
TheElder [8k?\]: personally, i think h6 gives white too much leeway. b will have to come back and connect at k7 giving another move to white. b needs to play a move that cuts and takes away some of whtie's eyespace.
Archaic [2d\]: white is just going to make life on the left side personally
Archaic [2d\]: imo
nanok [?\]: h9 is  tempting
Archaic [2d\]: too mcuh space on the left side
kithus [9k\]: r10ish?
TheElder [8k?\]: i like h9
Archaic [2d\]: and black has p9
MXHero [3d\]: but think of the b territory if it dies! yum
TheElder [8k?\]: or maybe... f9 probe and then h9
rmod [-\]: indeed MXHero
Archaic [2d\]: don't think they are going for any huge trades
Shenron [1d\]: are you at congress right now sweety?
]
;B[jk]
C[Swan [-\]: yes Sweety is at congress
evanj [2d\]: we're all wrong
MXHero [3d\]: oh that fixes the shape pretty well
Arhiman [1k\]: ok I'm outta here
Arhiman [1k\]: global high five, people
Archaic [2d\]: pros can find ways to live in the smallest ofo enclosures, but then by the same token they can find ways to kill on the grandest of scales
TheElder [8k?\]: @archaic: i don't think so, but i wouldn't refuse money if someone offered me a lot.
Shenron [1d\]: lucky duck
jagtigren [12k\]: bomb digity
]
;W[el]
C[Athanor [-\]: w took a huge sente
MXHero [3d\]: yes, m11 is ridiculously large now
TheElder [8k?\]: f9!
TheElder [8k?\]: f9 is the move.
evanj [2d\]: f9 is not the move
Archaic [2d\]: i'm guessing black will c8 tho
Athanor [-\]: f9 dies most likely
MXHero [3d\]: now g10 is light so it doesn't matter
Archaic [2d\]: or play in the middle area
Archaic [2d\]: around j7?
evanj [2d\]: d7?
TheElder [8k?\]: maybe i'm too set on killing =\]
nanok [?\]: f9 looks suicidal
nanok [?\]: ?
eboesch [1d\]: c10 appears to be able to connect to the top black stones with b12 in a pinch
MXHero [3d\]: killing seems like the only way now, honestly
Archaic [2d\]: imo white is dominating
MXHero [3d\]: otherwise b has nothing
Athanor [-\]: killing a pro is like impossible
Athanor [-\]: w+res?
MXHero [3d\]: oh i agree, it's not going to work but b must try it
Archaic [2d\]: all u can hope to do with black is use the chinese opening
Archaic [2d\]: and hope the pro hasn't researched it much xD
TheElder [8k?\]: lol
Archaic [2d\]: or use mirror go
MXHero [3d\]: lol why the chinese opening?
Archaic [2d\]: well lee sedol invades the chinese early on
Archaic [2d\]: and sometimes dies
Archaic [2d\]: i think
Archaic [2d\]: but most of the time h e finds miraculous variations that allow him to win
MXHero [3d\]: oh choose the most violent opening possible, gotcha :)
Archaic [2d\]: cause he doesn't like to study i heard
TheElder [8k?\]: he does study.
TheElder [8k?\]: in his games. =P
]
;B[mg]
C[USGO1 [-\]: Thunk~!
TheElder [8k?\]: n13 says desperate
Archaic [2d\]: i'm just making wild assumptions tho
]
;W[nh]
C[Athanor [-\]: o12...
MXHero [3d\]: this is the loudest game ever
MXHero [3d\]: oh now b s15!
TheElder [8k?\]: onomanopeoia.
TheElder [8k?\]: poeia?
TheElder [8k?\]: meh, tomato tomahto.
Athanor [-\]: b p9 w o7?
purp [6k\]: f9
TheElder [8k?\]: yes!
TheElder [8k?\]: f9
TheElder [8k?\]: thanks you
MXHero [3d\]: if b plays s15 i will be so happy
purp [6k\]: like we know
eboesch [1d\]: "Onomanpoeoia" brings to mind a joke that would not be appropriate here.
wronkth [4k\]: matopoeia, i thought
TheElder [8k?\]: lol
Magister7 [9k\]: it is funny to listen to you all guess the next move
TheElder [8k?\]: well that's how to become pro kibbitzers
Magister7 [9k\]: i'm gonna join in and go out on a limb . . .
MXHero [3d\]: if we guess the right move we helped one of the players win! :)
Magister7 [9k\]: next move:
TheElder [8k?\]: This is the next move! and another move comes up. "That was my second guess!"
Magister7 [9k\]: T1
Magister7 [9k\]: T1, i'm calling it
nanok [?\]: good call. as good as any other, at this point, i should think :)
Magister7 [9k\]: :P
TheElder [8k?\]: f9 is the key. 
USGO1 [-\]: Yuan is reading very deeply now, in the area of M17 and K14.
nanok [?\]: a bit bloodthirsty, for an elder
USGO1 [-\]: He is frozen over the board.
nanok [?\]: :)
MXHero [3d\]: is b looking at s15 even a little bit? :)
XY0908 [-\]: USGo, so this is being played after dinner?
TheElder [8k?\]: bah, i'm only 18.
MXHero [3d\]: maybe he has already assumed he's playing that next
USGO1 [-\]: Yes, MXH he gave it a glance or two.
USGO1 [-\]: @XY yes also
MXHero [3d\]: hooray
]
;B[kh]
C[TheElder [8k?\]: interesting move....
];W[ke]
C[Archaic [2d\]: hurrahhhh
TheElder [8k?\]: >.> i need to quit watching games and go get a solid rank.
Magister7 [9k\]: as far as game watching s concerned, i am definitely favoring watching already played games instead of live ones
Magister7 [9k\]: the pace is killer
Athanor [-\]: live game is best to me
wronkth [4k\]: i kinda dig the suspense
TheElder [8k?\]: a live game is best for me, when i can see the real board. but...
TheElder [8k?\]: i wanna play games like that.
]
;B[jg];W[jf]
C[Magister7 [9k\]: okay...for suspense watch an already played game v.e.r.y. s.l.o.w.l.y...
schaz [13k\]: because live game means we also thinks what we will play if we are in their position
]
;B[lg]
C[TheElder [8k?\]: honestly, i want to break shodan. and then see what i can do.
]
;W[kd]
C[Athanor [-\]: b...
MXHero [3d\]: l16 looked so obvious!
schaz [13k\]: yes, cut and kill
]
;B[qg]
C[Athanor [-\]: fight!
MXHero [3d\]: yeah, this had better work
nanok [?\]: without l16 it was almost certain death
Athanor [-\]: s16 for multikill?
Rakurai [5k\]: S15
schaz [13k\]: the play in lower left will decide the game
Rakurai [5k\]: Right here too.
Magister7 [9k\]: old age will decide the game
]
;W[re]
C[Magister7 [9k\]: as in, first player to keel over
FindYoda [?\]: black setting up for some kind of center kill?
Magister7 [9k\]: but, mx, there goes your s15
USGO1 [-\]: Mingjiu turned 53 this year o.O
nanok [?\]: damn, this is the honinbo title match all over again (sun rising, me still awake)
Talus [13k\]: I like having time to think, but Ill admit it gets a bit harder to watch with this much time
USGO1 [-\]: Nobody is keeling over
]
;B[og];W[ng];B[nf];W[nd]
C[USGO1 [-\]: o14 with a slap, Yuan taking some power back.
schaz [13k\]: a slap?
wronkth [4k\]: o16 says 'nonsense
Goprince [3d\]: this loosk dangeorus for w
Ripples [2k\]: yea
Rakurai [5k\]: I think white will pull it off
schaz [13k\]: o15
Rakurai [5k\]: All he needs to do is connect to L16
schaz [13k\]: for black
nanok [?\]: why not p15?
Rakurai [5k\]: Ends bad for black
MrCactu5 [2k\]: that wall... F16... I could hear Mingiu saying "walls are for attacking, not making territory"
schaz [13k\]: end in d-atari for b
geof [3d\]: follow it up, nanok.  p15 q15 p16 o15 
]
;B[md];W[oc]
C[nanok [?\]: aye
schaz [13k\]: interesting
nanok [?\]: sorry, it's so late here it's early
Goprince [3d\]: at least k16 is aved
MXHero [3d\]: yeah, neat
]
;B[ob]
C[MXHero [3d\]: b ends in bad shape though
Goprince [3d\]: yea still a lost game
schaz [13k\]: not yet
Magister7 [9k\]: b p15
schaz [13k\]: b can win
Rakurai [5k\]: White will just play p16
wronkth [4k\]: b can't win
Rakurai [5k\]: b can win if white keels over 
Rakurai [5k\]: lol
MXHero [3d\]: wait k14 can die, can't it?
Athanor [-\]: it can't
Goprince [3d\]: if w p16
Goprince [3d\]: k14 dies
MXHero [3d\]: if b just sacrifices q17?
Goprince [3d\]: but he takes top right corner
schaz [13k\]: it can
MXHero [3d\]: yeah
USGO1 [-\]: White 55min left, black 17min left.
sivananda [2d\]: can can't can can't
MXHero [3d\]: it's still bad for b
schaz [13k\]: true
Goprince [3d\]: well exchange might be good
Goprince [3d\]: but overall hard game
Rakurai [5k\]: Black is going to be rushed for time here very soon. He will probably resign.
schaz [13k\]: of course
schaz [13k\]: ^ a hard game
sivananda [2d\]: j7 ended up doing nothing. was it the losing move?
Magister7 [9k\]: as a general rule, how much stronger is a p than a d of equal numeric rank?
sivananda [2d\]: mega stronger
schaz [13k\]: 6d=1p
Magister7 [9k\]: oh, wow
MXHero [3d\]: well i'm not sure what j7 can do yet
Rakurai [5k\]: I must admit, I always knew Yuan Zhou was extremely clever just from reading his books. But I did not expect him to do this well against Mingjiu Jiang.
Magister7 [9k\]: who is considered best player in world?
Rakurai [5k\]: Probably Lee Chang-ho
Viperlason [-\]: me :D
eboesch [1d\]: 6d = 1p? I think even an EGF 6d would not consider himself pro level.
FlameBlade [-\]: think it's actually Kong Jie.
Magister7 [9k\]: are they 9p?
schaz [13k\]: I read that from Yoshinori Kano's book
Rakurai [5k\]: Yes
Magister7 [9k\]: so
Magister7 [9k\]: as a 9 k
eboesch [1d\]: well, at least I knew a weak EGF 6d that definitely did not...
Magister7 [9k\]: how many stones do i need as a handicap to beat a 9p?
wronkth [4k\]: yup.  gu li was kinda the man last i checked.  have not been keeping up ...
Magister7 [9k\]: all of them?
FlameBlade [-\]: Kong Jie is holding 4 international titles now.
Rakurai [5k\]: 25 handicap to put up a match againt a 9p
Rakurai [5k\]: against*
wronkth [4k\]: damn.  4
USGO1 [-\]: Mingjiu's signature ~grumble~
schaz [13k\]: 25?
schaz [13k\]: 13
dedroid [1k\]: many consider lee changho to still be the strongest, right now it's hard to say who is stronger
USGO1 [-\]: He yawns and stretches... sighs...
sivananda [2d\]: I predict p16!
XY0908 [-\]: But didn't he see this response when he played P17? ;-)
schaz [13k\]: he'll play in another place I think
FindYoda [?\]: o15 is also playable imho
USGO1 [-\]: He seemed about to play o15
Rakurai [5k\]: P16 is the normal move to play here. Obviously White is reading on how to capture something.
USGO1 [-\]: then pulled it back
evanj [2d\]: o15 is definitely playable
]
;W[mf]
C[evanj [2d\]: hm
sivananda [2d\]: n17 now?
wronkth [4k\]: p16?
rjm [3k\]: i guess he didn't want to give black n17 for "free" by playing p16, then w would still need n14, and black would have l17
Rakurai [5k\]: P16 looks better than N17 for Black
purp [6k\]: 15
purp [6k\]: 015
]
;B[ne];W[od]
C[schaz [13k\]: N18?
SnC [2k\]: w leading a lot
];B[me];W[nb];B[mc]
C[CptCaveman [2d\]: He is?
];W[pb];B[kc];W[lc]
C[crazyboy [5d\]: wt is b thinking?
Goprince [3d\]: g18?
Gaechka [7k\]: =)
]
;B[kb]
C[CptCaveman [2d\]: n18
geof [3d\]: yes n18 looks good
schaz [13k\]: what's L18 for?
geof [3d\]: hope
eboesch [1d\]: n18 just induces l14 doesn't it?
evanj [2d\]: n18 is dangerous
geof [3d\]: n18 l14 k15 
dedroid [1k\]: blood in the water and it's shark week
Goprince [3d\]: oh its shark week?
]
;W[mb];B[lb];W[ib]
C[dedroid [1k\]: yep, started yesterday
geof [3d\]: hmmm  n14 could come in handy here for w... i was wondering
Magister7 [9k\]: this looks even 
Magister7 [9k\]: black is not dead
XY0908 [-\]: L14?
FlameBlade [-\]: L14 is easy way out.
geof [3d\]: part of b looks dead
Rakurai [5k\]: K17 is what white is aiming at, Magister7
Goprince [3d\]: b looks ok
nanok [?\]: k15 first?
Goprince [3d\]: but looks hard read
purp [6k\]: looks over
Magister7 [9k\]: maybe black needs to build out q12 group while he can
trebleclef [1k\]: l14
]
;B[jc]
C[geof [3d\]: wow
];W[ld]
C[Goprince [3d\]: ko>
geof [3d\]: b too strong?
geof [3d\]: maybe three strong?
Goprince [3d\]: even if w dies here hes ahead
]
;B[if]
C[akko888 [13k\]: really?
Goprince [3d\]: yes he just stole a huge corner form black
Rakurai [5k\]: J15?
Goprince [3d\]: na now w tenuki
JeansebL [2d\]: e10 not alive yet....
USGO1 [-\]: If it becomes ko what threats can they use?
geof [3d\]: w one liberty ahead, no?  just j15?
MXHero [3d\]: j15 k15
crazyboy [5d\]: m14ko is only way
Goprince [3d\]: w not connected
Goprince [3d\]: yup ko is plenty for  w tho
wronkth [4k\]: still a hail mary on f11...
dedroid [1k\]: well, this looks like it'll be fun
Rakurai [5k\]: MXHero is right
Sampi [1d\]: m14 k15 p15 l14 m15 = good exchange for b?
CptCaveman [2d\]: don't see anything but ko
indianayk [4d\]: ko is the best w can do
SnC [2k\]: seems w is short
Archaic [2d\]:  m14 ko
nanok [?\]: b has p15
Archaic [2d\]: p15 does nothing
Squiggles [1d\]: lol
CptCaveman [2d\]: that wouls be a very bad threat :)
nanok [?\]: as a ko threat
Sampi [1d\]: p15 loses the ko
Squiggles [1d\]: bad ko threat
nanok [?\]: ah
wronkth [4k\]: it loses a liberty, to be fair.  that's something
nanok [?\]: it would determine closing the ko
ethanb [2d?\]: nanok: if black plays p15 white doesn't need the ko anymore; he's in atari after white answers
Squiggles [1d\]: not quite..
Squiggles [1d\]: well i guess so
adsf [2d\]: but w seems ahead so why not worry about G10 group first
CptCaveman [2d\]: I wonder what w is thinking about?
SnC [2k\]: w short
Totti10 [4k\]: probably counting threats
Sampi [1d\]: i think w is counting ko threats
Squiggles [1d\]: white says, do i even need to play up here now or can i tenuki?
wronkth [4k\]: r18, r16 seem better local threats
adsf [2d\]: I think G7 w wins
indianayk [4d\]: if w can ensure that r14 4 stones are dead, w is ahead
Archaic [2d\]: n19 is a local threat
Archaic [2d\]: followed by o19
Archaic [2d\]: not sure if o19 reduces the liberties on t he black group t ho
SnC [2k\]: w should give up here
Sampi [1d\]: you mean B!
]
;W[qi]
C[Sampi [1d\]: of course
USGO1 [-\]: KerthunK~
Sampi [1d\]: now thats honte
Dchord [2d\]: sampi knows nothing
adsf [2d\]: guess w confident
Rakurai [5k\]: White preparing for the ko?
CptCaveman [2d\]: ah, he was counting :)
Sampi [1d\]: :O
SnC [2k\]: see w gave up
Archaic [2d\]: this move reduces the threats black can use to threaten life on this side perhaps?
trebleclef [1k\]: r11 = hey b, gg
adsf [2d\]: now b G8?
Dchord [2d\]: lol
Squiggles [1d\]: i love the USGO comments, they're my favorite
]
;B[in];W[cl]
C[FindYoda [?\]: If black won the  ko, this would have been necessary anyway
rjm [3k\]:  indianayk [4d\]: if w can ensure that r14 4 stones are dead, w is ahead
rjm [3k\]: was right :)
SnC [2k\]: wow 
]
;B[bl]
C[wronkth [4k\]: b18, black might get enough
akko888 [13k\]: g2
sakjbfsd: hey
sakjbfsd: question
sakjbfsd: can we watch these streaming?
USGO1 [-\]: nope
sakjbfsd: noo!
USGO1 [-\]: We might have webcam set up tomorrow, we'll see.
sakjbfsd: this is in the springs?
michi2009 [6d\]: b is looking for kill
Archaic [2d\]: it's at a hotspring
sakjbfsd: I'm in denver, is there any way I can come see it?
nanok [?\]: it's the end of summer, rather, but anyway..
Luminaire [4k\]: we are at UCCS
Archaic [2d\]: with pretty attendants
Squiggles [1d\]: $50 to observe i think
sakjbfsd: !!
ethanb [2d?\]: sakjbfsd: http://www.gocongress.org
Archaic [2d\]: wearing nothing but cloth
sakjbfsd: omg omg
sakjbfsd: im coming
Luminaire [4k\]: lol
]
;W[cm];B[bm];W[dn]
C[Squiggles [1d\]: how did you not know about this previously?  i don't even play go anymore and i knew it was there..
]
;B[co];W[bk]
C[wronkth [4k\]: b10
];B[bj];W[ck]
C[sakjbfsd: I did but I forgot
akko888 [13k\]: a9 or c13 preferable?
Luminaire [4k\]: I think it would be cool if they could hear the storm outside and see the lightning clash 
Rakurai [5k\]: C13 doesn't look so great
Squiggles [1d\]: probably with either is it leaves D9 as sente
Squiggles [1d\]: problem*
wronkth [4k\]: i have a storm outside.  good compromise
]
;B[bh]
C[sakjbfsd: anyone seen inception? I want to go but its raining :(
CptCaveman [2d\]: a8
geof [3d\]: d9 
fireball [1k\]: dude
fireball [1k\]: im watching it right now
fireball [1k\]: lol
Magister7 [9k\]: I 20
geof [3d\]: a8 d9 could be problem
sakjbfsd: sweet!
USGO1 [-\]: Mingjiu seems to be considering f3 area
fireball [1k\]: i went to movie theater to watch it yesterday
]
;W[go]
C[fireball [1k\]: i just want to understand it again\]
michi2009 [6d\]: w wins
Squiggles [1d\]: crazy high dans and you're magic
srrp: at this pt, w wins anyway,
CptCaveman [2d\]: We're watching a nice game, let's keep the movie chitchat somewhere else ok?
srrp: just need be safte
MXHero [3d\]: b has basically nothing, when did that happen? o.O
michi2009 [6d\]: pros are strong
sakjbfsd: what time should I come tomorrow to see awesome go players
MXHero [3d\]: it's not fair how good w is
]
;B[fn]
C[srrp: in china and korea, pro strong
srrp: in us,
fireball [1k\]: not really
srrp:  amature too weak
srrp: in us
michi2009 [6d\]: haha
Luminaire [4k\]: I'm not sure how much it would cost, but we start at 9am with the open
USGO1 [-\]: US Open begins at 9am local time. We'll be broadcasting games of Round 3 tomorrow.
Sampi [1d\]: USGO, how much time left for both players??
]
;W[gn]
C[srrp: jing won't get into first 200 if in china
hottttttt [?\]: it's jiang
]
;B[fm]
C[firstcut [4k\]: hmm
];W[hl]
C[srrp: even kids in china so strong at this game
firstcut [4k\]: w dead
sakjbfsd: is it too late to join?
geof [3d\]: nice!
Viperlason [-\]: obvious troll is obvious
geof [3d\]: that's a cool connection
Squiggles [1d\]: firstcut, you're going to doubt a 7p?
srrp: f-5 or k-7
Luminaire [4k\]: it isn't but i wouldn't know how much it would cost for you
srrp: b done finally
firstcut [4k\]: yes
akko888 [13k\]: g8
wronkth [4k\]: rhymes with dianng, black is hosed
sakjbfsd: D:
firstcut [4k\]: w will die
Luminaire [4k\]: I'm sure they wouldn't decline your money
firstcut [4k\]: too much overplay
geof [3d\]: w is connected now
sakjbfsd: hehe okay
USGO1 [-\]: Black is in byo-yomi time now.
]
;B[fl];W[ek]
C[amego [3k\]: w will not die
MXHero [3d\]: i have to say that m11 was the game-ending move
firstcut [4k\]: it will 
michi2009 [6d\]: f5
ethanb [2d?\]: sakjbfsd: you can probably still join the open, even, if you'd rather play than watch; they have to make allowances for people not staying the whole week anyway, adding a new player in is no different from adding in somebody who couldn't arrive until wednesday
SnC [2k\]: w connected
hsk123 [2d?\]: w win
firstcut [4k\]: w lost
Sampi [1d\]: f5 k7 ?
BrYanwithY [4k\]: is it too late to get a room officially?
amego [3k\]: w connected
firstcut [4k\]: b wins
SnC [2k\]: w wins
]
;B[fo]
C[BrYanwithY [4k\]: with meal plan and stuff...
geof [3d\]: j8 
amego [3k\]: k7
Luminaire [4k\]: e-mail the congress director tonight
srrp: i wonder why this b player still playing....???
Luminaire [4k\]: gocongress.org
ethanb [2d?\]: BrYanwithY: what Luminaire said
srrp: us 7dan may about 4 or 6 at kgs? any idea....
michi2009 [6d\]: j8 good
MXHero [3d\]: srrp, it's because you are a troll that you wonder that
BrYanwithY [4k\]: eh...I'm an hour away, but I don't have 4 trillion dollars... :(
ethanb [2d?\]: us 7 dan anywhere from 7 - 9 dan KGS
indianayk [4d\]: j8 will do
Porkypine [5k\]: 7dan will be 9dan kgs probably lol
ethanb [2d?\]: BBW is 7d AGA
eboesch [1d\]: oh, I forgot, AGA tightened up on their dan ratings didn't they?
srrp: bbw?
Ripples [2k\]: k7
BrYanwithY [4k\]: big beautiful woman.....
Ripples [2k\]: nvm
BrYanwithY [4k\]: is what that normally stands for...
ethanb [2d?\]: not the ratings, exactly... but they're stricter now about calling people by their ranks than by their ratings
BigStan [1d\]: k7 j9 
ethanb [2d?\]: BrYanwithY: I meant Big Bad Wolf - he's a semi-famous 9d on KGS :)
geof [3d\]: j8 is safer
geof [3d\]: ...and plenty to win
Luminaire [4k\]: more famous for last years in win after beating 3 pros in a row
eboesch [1d\]: ok thx
Luminaire [4k\]: *ing
akko888 [13k\]: k7 j9, j8 h9 miai?
amego [3k\]: g8 first
Magister7 [9k\]: what is going on, i thought b was in byo yomi?
srrp: b palys really a bad game or w is too much for him... :)
Magister7 [9k\]: how long are byo yomi periods?
hsk123 [2d?\]: g8 is no good
USGO1 [-\]: 1 minute each
Porkypine [5k\]: srrp, why do you insist on constantly insulting the players >_>
MATb [3d\]: j8 does not connect
Ailura [8k\]: how much time w have on the clock?
srrp: b simply won't give up, and expecting to sneak sth seems....
USGO1 [-\]: Mingjiu still has a half hour of thinking time.
Talus [13k\]: h7 connects through I think for white
indianayk [4d\]: why not matb?
srrp: maybe he style.
SnC [2k\]: j8
USGO1 [-\]: Yuan is chewing his lip.
lepore [1d\]: h5 squeeze for b?
akko888 [13k\]: xD
USGO1 [-\]: There's a crowd around the board now, it's one of only three games still going.
Magister7 [9k\]: how scary is it that w was able to conquer like this AND have 30 min left to run to the bathroom while b sweats it out?
MATb [3d\]: j8 h5 h7 g4 and h7 next
indianayk [4d\]: nothing left after j8
hsk123 [2d?\]: i think problem for w is g9
hsk123 [2d?\]: after w move
]
;W[al]
C[Squiggles [1d\]: this is too risky for my blood
CptCaveman [2d\]: well no one guessed that :)
MXHero [3d\]: squiggles, you must not have been here for m11 :)
srrp: w h-7 will be safe too....
geof [3d\]: w not content with winning... 
Squiggles [1d\]: you are correct
Squiggles [1d\]: i was not here :P
MATb [3d\]: j8 does not connect
MXHero [3d\]: you should totally look at it, it's amazing
srrp: how about h-7
]
;B[hm]
C[srrp: b got it
];W[bg]
C[srrp: h-7
dedroid [1k\]: mingjiu playing like a boss
hsk123 [2d?\]: yes.. correct sequence
Academic [5k\]: were mingjiu from?
dedroid [1k\]: china
miao [6d\]: schlumpfhausen
BlueOcean [2d\]: mountain view
]
;B[ch];W[cg];B[dg];W[ah]
C[amego [3k\]: b11?
hsk123 [2d?\]: w live
akko888 [13k\]: what is w doing?
ethanb [2d?\]: killing
miao [6d\]: killing b
Rakurai [5k\]: White can capture
geof [3d\]: yikes!  just played out j8, and it really didn't work... sure looked reasonable
Rakurai [5k\]: He knows what he is doing
srrp: w want to be alive with some pts.
dedroid [1k\]: white has taken a liking to the b12 stones and now wants them
srrp: not simply connected
srrp: pro mind
akko888 [13k\]: a11 a13 c14?
]
;B[ai]
C[miao [6d\]: c11
Rakurai [5k\]: Maybe he just wants Black to resign already so he can finally go stretch around? lol
amego [3k\]: c11\\
srrp: but really gave reason for b keep playing i guess
hsk123 [2d?\]: ya
hsk123 [2d?\]: c11
Scatter [1d\]: he can just connect i think?
Kanin [-\]: white has no ko threats...
]
;W[ci]
C[hsk123 [2d?\]: uh trying to connect g7 is threat
];B[ag]
C[Joven [?\]: where is the ko?
];W[bi]
C[rjm [3k\]: b14
faintvoice [1k\]: no ko
ethanb [2d?\]: Joven: it would have been ko at A9/A10 in another variation
faintvoice [1k\]: w won
MXHero [3d\]: oh d9 does double duty, cool
]
;B[af];W[ah];B[bh]
C[Kanin [-\]: white can choose A13 instead of c11 to make ko
];W[aj]
C[FindYoda [?\]: this is the ko, of course
ethanb [2d?\]: well, this one too, I guess :)
Porkypine [5k\]: oh white, you so crazy
]
;B[ak]
C[CptCaveman [2d\]: not ko
srrp: w must miscal some where
Scatter [1d\]: does just playing b6 work here?
dedroid [1k\]: b doesn't have enough libs for ko at a13
]
;W[bn]
C[Joven [?\]: still not a ko
hope [4k\]: cool
Rakurai [5k\]: Nicw on White's part.
Rakurai [5k\]: nice*
ErrorGo [2k\]: a10
hsk123 [2d?\]: oh.. no ko
michi2009 [6d\]: all over
]
;B[aj];W[am]
C[MXHero [3d\]: ohh nice
srrp: thousands way to win for white
ErrorGo [2k\]: w lvie
hsk123 [2d?\]: w still need one more..
eboesch [1d\]: really?
Scatter [1d\]: G4? or resign?
amego [3k\]: b5 e7 mia
akko888 [13k\]: w no lvie.
Scatter [1d\]: eye at D9
geof [3d\]: one sente eye + one gote eye = enough
FindYoda [?\]: d9 sente
Talus [13k\]: wow to my mind though, keeping even that much alive over there...
Talus [13k\]: for black
rjm [3k\]: d9 b5 miai
USGO1 [-\]: W+Resign
akko888 [13k\]: d9?
hope [4k\]: white wins
hsk123 [2d?\]: thx
]
;B[]
C[xedover [?\]: thanks usgo1
USGO1 [-\]: Thanks for watching!
hope [4k\]: thanks
michi2009 [6d\]: gg
ethanb [2d?\]: thanks for showing us the game!
Porkypine [5k\]: oh white you so crazy
CptCaveman [2d\]: Thank you, presenter!
MXHero [3d\]: thanks usgo1
]
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(;B[lk];W[jj];B[nc];W[pf];B[df]
C[This is a way for B to play, but it's still not easy. But more consistent with B's original strategy]
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